July 8, 2010, a news release came out, concerning Lockheed Martin and Tata Advanced System Ltd., a part of India's Tata Group, in which they signed a joint venture to "make defense equipment and aircraft parts in India". Lockheed will invest 428 million rupees, while Tata would invest 1.22 billion rupees (around $35 million as of today).
Tata Group also makes cars with Tata Motors in the famous $2500 Nano. Tata Motors is not just a small novelty car company ala Zenn, they also own Daewoo, Jaguar, Land Rover, and Daimler.
Flash back to 2008, when Lockheed signed exclusive rights to develop EEstor electrical energy storage units for "military and homeland defense applications". The initial hype of EEstor was that it would make the electric car a viable alternative to regular gasoline cars, but Dick Weir just hasn't delivered.
So isn't it somewhat significant that Lockheed is announcing a joint venture this week with another company that can leverage the barium titanate technology in both its defense and car business? Or perhaps just its defense business, as the government has possibly decided that the super battery is just too good for the rest of us. But at least Tata can apply their car knowledge to defense applications. Sorry Zenn, you're just a useless useful idiot.
Tuesday, July 13, 2010
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Very very thin ... but interesting.
ReplyDeleteSure, but it's a lot less cryptic than that other blog. Also, history has shown that coincidences usually aren't just coincidences.
ReplyDeleteSo what we are saying here (tell it to me like I am a 5 year old) is Lockheed Martin is probably already making the EESU for Eastor using it's secure production facilities for some military purposes and Lockheed Martin probably does not want Eastor to share this new technology with Zenn. Lockheed Martin probably wants to keep the technology hidden and secure for a while for it's own purposes and is persuading Eestor with lots of jelly donuts and other sweet things to go slow on the Zenn deal.
ReplyDeleteMy understanding is that EEstor had energy storage technology that had potential in the labs, but there were still kinks (or they have secrets the military doesn't want out).
ReplyDeleteThey solicited for a financial partner, and got one in Zenn. I've always read about Zenn waiting on EEstor, not the other way around.
EEstor did not find Zenn helpful, so Lockheed Martin came to the rescue. Maybe EEstor wouldn't be so great in conventional cars, but defense applications would have more use. BTW, Lockheed Martin is basically 100% government sponsored...
Tata is also a force of technology, making tiny, cheap cars, etc., so Lockheed decided to collaborate with Tata in this ambiguous deal, and I think EEstor falls somewhere in there.
Lockheed doesn't need to persuade EEstor to slow on Zenn, the government by fiat can shut them down, as I linked in my post.
Are you related to Baghead Brennan Murphy. The EESCAM con artists never cease to amaze me.
ReplyDeleteI've never crossed paths with him.
ReplyDeleteBroc, get your facts straight! Lockheed Martin did not come to EESCAMs rescue. Read the following from GM-Volt.com. You might learn some facts rather than the lies Baghead and his fellow con artists are spreading about a Lockheed Martin and EESCAM connection:
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“Lockheed Martin Missiles and Fire Control has no plans (nor had any plans) to produce EESUs,” he told GM-Volt.
Further speculation suggest that EESUs may be a secret component of a new electric grid load stabilizing technology Lockheed is developing and calls SEESuite. Asked if this is technology includes EESUs, VanBebber says “none whatsoever.”
And if you want to see what a scamster CEO of EEStor is, read this:
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Isn't it awesome how he obtained by lies $10 Million dollars, $5 Million for his EESCAM and the other $5 Million for Zenn?
If you read in between the lines of the quote you provided, they slickly provided a non-denial, in that they claim "Lockheed Martin Missiles and Fire Control" isn't "producing" EESUs.
ReplyDeleteThey did not have to narrow down that work on EEstor wasn't being done in a particular group of Lockheed, and if you bothered to follow my link from Lockheed, they said they were going "integrate and market Electrical Energy Storage Units (EESU) from EEStor, Inc., for military and homeland security applications.
Our ruggedized BattPack™ energy storage unit generated considerable interest at the Association of the United States Army Annual Meeting in October 2007 for its potential for fuel savings in vehicular silent watch applications. The potential of an even safer, smaller and more powerful EESU in BattPack™ would significantly enhance the Warfighter’s capabilities.”
Their very own press release says they are going to "integrate and market" EESUs, not necessarily "produce", so I guess you're right on that front.
My post isn't even about the viability of the EEstor technology anyway, as you might have inferred.
Also quoted in that Lockheed Martin press release, "EESU qualification testing and mass production at EEStor’s facility in Cedar Park is planned for late 2008." Why don't you go down to EESCAM's facility in Cedar Park to witness the mass produced EESUs being loaded onto 18 wheelers for shipment to Lockheed Martin.
ReplyDeleteWhat I'm inferring is EESTor is a scam! They don't have a product just hype, BS, and press releases since 2001. It's easy to make bold claims when you don't have a product.
BTW-I did hear a verifiable rumor EESCAM is manufacturing EESU's at Roswell, New Mexico next to the UFO building. Lockheed Martin and EESTor have refused to comment about the manufacturing facility.
Have a good week!
Logically if Lockheed IS including EEstor inside its patent applications and if DW is deferring all defense questions to Fire and Missile plus at least one ex LM employee is now co-chairing EEstor's newest patents in its current patent war I would take all of the above and assume the EESU was not a scam.
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